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ii and john -- i should say john xxiii and john paul ii. right now, we're seeing the commencement of the next phase of this ceremony, the presentation of relics, which are connected to the miracles that these popes had to prove they committed or conducted during their lifetime a very important part of the ceremony, but certainly something that's unprecedented in the catholic church. you're seeing pope emeritus benedict there and pope francis at the same time paying homage and honoring two iconic leaders of the catholic church, really, amara. >> yeah, and just moments ago, we heard pope francis declare blessed popes john paul ii and john xxiii as saints. right now you're watching the presentation of the relics as it is happening there in st. peter's square. i want to bring in john allen and delia gallagher. and john, if you can explain to us what we are seeing and the significance of these acts. >> reporter: well, these are relics of the two new saints. specifically, it's a vial of the blood of pope john paul ii, and a piece of the skin of p
ii and john -- i should say john xxiii and john paul ii. right now, we're seeing the commencement of the next phase of this ceremony, the presentation of relics, which are connected to the miracles that these popes had to prove they committed or conducted during their lifetime a very important part of the ceremony, but certainly something that's unprecedented in the catholic church. you're seeing pope emeritus benedict there and pope francis at the same time paying homage and honoring two...
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popes john xxiii and john paul ii. and you mentioned earlier, delia, that john paul ii had this great devotion to the communion of saints, and of course, that's right. you'll remember in one of his private chapels in the apostolic palace, when he had the murals on the walls done, he brought in an eastern orthodox artist, who did this mural that showed the communion of saints, you know, through time, and that when you stood in that space, you stood shoulder to shoulder surrounded by this heavenly host of saints. so, we're also engaging in communion in that sense here today. >> well, and i was thinking that one of the saints that has a thread running through this day is st. francis of assisi. obvious reasons for pope francis, but also john xxiii, before the start of the second vatican council, went to assisi in pilgrimage to pray to st. francis for his help with the second vatican council and pope john paul ii use assisi as a play where he held interreligious prayer days, which also tried to unify. so, there's a kind of
popes john xxiii and john paul ii. and you mentioned earlier, delia, that john paul ii had this great devotion to the communion of saints, and of course, that's right. you'll remember in one of his private chapels in the apostolic palace, when he had the murals on the walls done, he brought in an eastern orthodox artist, who did this mural that showed the communion of saints, you know, through time, and that when you stood in that space, you stood shoulder to shoulder surrounded by this...
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paul ii -- >> saint john paul ii and saint xxiii. their caskets will be changed in st. peter's basilica. maybe already changed. but that's how they will be known. >> i have been at st. peter's square, witnessed some of the massive moments like this. it takes your breath way, do see the pageantry and pomp of these things. >> it truly is. and it's a day for celebrating. all that -- how celebrating, as pope francis said, the infinite mercy and love of god that encompasses many people. that cuts across our interpretations, our divisions. >> and not a small logistical undertake. that many people, heads of state and dignitaries here for this special occasion. typically the pope, of course, appears on sundays. his regular would take place. >> yes, yes. and this is -- well, this pope, pope francis has been drawing large crowds. the easter mass, all of his public masses are drawing large crowds. 500,000 people is remarkable. the square is said to fit about 250,000 people. as you can see it's -- >> not a lot of breathing room there. you see a
paul ii -- >> saint john paul ii and saint xxiii. their caskets will be changed in st. peter's basilica. maybe already changed. but that's how they will be known. >> i have been at st. peter's square, witnessed some of the massive moments like this. it takes your breath way, do see the pageantry and pomp of these things. >> it truly is. and it's a day for celebrating. all that -- how celebrating, as pope francis said, the infinite mercy and love of god that encompasses many...
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john paul ii. >> st. john paul ii and st. john xxiii. inscriptions will be changed on their caskets in st. peter's basilica. may have already been changed. from now on, that's how they will be known. >> i have been at st. peter's square, witnessed some of the massive moments like this and it takes your breath away. it is awe-inspiring to watch the pageantry, the pomp of these sorts of things. >> it truly is. it truly is. it's a day for celebrating all that -- how celebrating as pope francis said, the mercy and love of god that encompasses many people, that cuts across our interpretations, our division. >> and not a small logistical undertaking. packing that many people and heads of state and dignitaries here for this special occasion. typically, the pope, of course, appears on sundays, his regular -- that takes place. >> yes. well, this pope, pope francis has been drawing large crowds. the easter mass, all of his public masses are drawing large crowds. 500,000 people is remarkable. the square is said to fit about 250,000 people. so as yo
john paul ii. >> st. john paul ii and st. john xxiii. inscriptions will be changed on their caskets in st. peter's basilica. may have already been changed. from now on, that's how they will be known. >> i have been at st. peter's square, witnessed some of the massive moments like this and it takes your breath away. it is awe-inspiring to watch the pageantry, the pomp of these sorts of things. >> it truly is. it truly is. it's a day for celebrating all that -- how celebrating...
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it's also a big part of john paul ii. if you are going to have a world full of people coming out of different ethnic traditions, different faith traditions, different experiences, living together, then shouldn't pluralism have as a component part. >> rose: now it's being characterized and i'm asking a question here, john paul conservative, john xxiii more liberal. on the other hand some people say that it was john xxiii who spoke so much to francis. >> i think what is there is a continuity. john started the council owned the second vatican council. the paul that somehow when you start to take a fresh look at how the gospel is being presented, john paul the second spent almost 27 years going all over the world trying to do that. and the message was always the same remember that god loves you and you can have a relationship with god. and on outcome francis who smiles like john xxiii but who has a message very much like john paul ii, a message of peace, a message over we need to find dialogue, we need to find communication.
it's also a big part of john paul ii. if you are going to have a world full of people coming out of different ethnic traditions, different faith traditions, different experiences, living together, then shouldn't pluralism have as a component part. >> rose: now it's being characterized and i'm asking a question here, john paul conservative, john xxiii more liberal. on the other hand some people say that it was john xxiii who spoke so much to francis. >> i think what is there is a...
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john xxiii and john paul ii's legacy are fresh. he specially strong for 48-year-old andreas vidmar. >> a lot of people come here for hope. they aresponding to a paul of john paul ii who said, do not be afraid, and turn to god and have faith. >> andreas knows that call well. he first arrived in rome as a 20-year-old swiss guard. since the 15th century, the guards have been responsible for the pope's security when andreas first met john paul, he was diagnostic. >> i came here primarily because i thought being a body guard was about the coolest thing you could do. >> changed, of course, once i started to meet john paul. i would see him pray, and i started to feel differently. like somebody brings such a peace about them. it made me want to pray, too. >> john paul taught andreas faith didn't have to be complicated. it could helpful phil him. >> what he talked about is how i was made for excellence and that my faith could actually help me fly like an eagle, you know, to soar to the heights. >> today, pope francis echoed and expanded tha
john xxiii and john paul ii's legacy are fresh. he specially strong for 48-year-old andreas vidmar. >> a lot of people come here for hope. they aresponding to a paul of john paul ii who said, do not be afraid, and turn to god and have faith. >> andreas knows that call well. he first arrived in rome as a 20-year-old swiss guard. since the 15th century, the guards have been responsible for the pope's security when andreas first met john paul, he was diagnostic. >> i came here...
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pope john xxiii and john paul ii both honored in front of a packed crowd. for more on this let's turn to raymond flynn, the former ambassador to the vatican and former mayor of boston. so great to have you here. what was it like to be there today, ambassador? >> well, i've known john paul ii for many years, long before he even became pope but to be an actual witness to this extraordinary historic event, it was so moving for me and for people in boston and the united states and all over the world. he was a legend, and when i saw the picture this morning of cardinal raggtzinger embracing pope francis to commemorate john paul ii and xxiiird. one of the greatest scenes i've ever seen. >> as far as what i was taught as a young boy growing up. was an extraordinary day here in rome. >> a lot of people have a question the speed within which john paul ii has been made a saint and can you explain how the process works. >> there's so much recorded history about john paul ii going back to september 1st, 1939. when nazi occupiers came into poland and the role that john
pope john xxiii and john paul ii both honored in front of a packed crowd. for more on this let's turn to raymond flynn, the former ambassador to the vatican and former mayor of boston. so great to have you here. what was it like to be there today, ambassador? >> well, i've known john paul ii for many years, long before he even became pope but to be an actual witness to this extraordinary historic event, it was so moving for me and for people in boston and the united states and all over...
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saint john paul ii and saint john paul 23rd has been proclaimed here. >> thank you. >>> now, the u.s. president says russia should stop encouraging unrest in the east of ukraine. barack obama has made the remarks in malaysia on the leg of his tour of asia. he said there was broad support for broad sanctions to punish moscow. >> the notion that for us to go forward with sectoral sanctions on our own, without the europeans would be the most affected deterrent that vladimir putin - i think he's factually wrong. we'll be in a stronger position to deter vladimir putin, when he sees that the world is unified and the united states and europe is unified. >> inside ukraine, a team of negotiators is heading to slovyansk in the east. where they are hoping to secure the release of their colleagues held by pro-russian gunmen in slovyansk. they have been detained since last friday. we can talk to hoda abdel-hamid in donetsk, which is not far from slovyansk. we are hearing that the team of negotiators that have just come in, could be getting there and will be granted an audience with those holding t
saint john paul ii and saint john paul 23rd has been proclaimed here. >> thank you. >>> now, the u.s. president says russia should stop encouraging unrest in the east of ukraine. barack obama has made the remarks in malaysia on the leg of his tour of asia. he said there was broad support for broad sanctions to punish moscow. >> the notion that for us to go forward with sectoral sanctions on our own, without the europeans would be the most affected deterrent that vladimir...
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of the john paul ii. in the picture his hands were raised. i saw how they extended out from the picture, indicating me to get up. i got up and said "yes, sir itself, that was my response. >> it happened at home in costa reeka as she watched the late pope's butification on television. her family were waiting for her to sky. >> reporter: john paul ii was responsible for two medical miracles after his death. on xxiii just one of the the counter pope francis removed the requirement for a second, making this canonizition event possible. to pilgrims both are men of holiness. the legacy of the john paul ii causes some to question. giovanni was a priest abbinged to give evidence to a committee investigating the possibility of john paul ii's canonization. they did not ask him back. >> in the past i expressed my view that the process has been accelerated in a significant way. subsequently they have not vetted the characters of these men, specifically the shadows in the life of survivors of sexual abuse within the c
of the john paul ii. in the picture his hands were raised. i saw how they extended out from the picture, indicating me to get up. i got up and said "yes, sir itself, that was my response. >> it happened at home in costa reeka as she watched the late pope's butification on television. her family were waiting for her to sky. >> reporter: john paul ii was responsible for two medical miracles after his death. on xxiii just one of the the counter pope francis removed the requirement...
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and john paul ii were canonized. many visited the tomb. nick schifrin is live with more. this clearly was a huge historic weekend for the catholic church. >> it was a day of firsts. it was a day of celebration for two of the church's 20th century titans, and a day for pope francis to deliver messages - one of unity and the other of striving for betterment for all of the catholic faithful watching in the square, and for the church itself. [ singing ] >> reporter:. >> reporter: in front of a million faithful... [ singing ] ..an ancient ceremony became a memorable moment. never before has the church sainted two popes at once. never before have two living popes publicly celebrated mass together. never before have this many people made the pilgrimage to rome and st. peter's square. in a single statement pope francis canonized two popes who had remarkable influence with different pap assies. for the one billion kath lirks, john xxiii and john paul ii's legacies are fresh. specially strong for 48-year-old andreas widmar. >>
and john paul ii were canonized. many visited the tomb. nick schifrin is live with more. this clearly was a huge historic weekend for the catholic church. >> it was a day of firsts. it was a day of celebration for two of the church's 20th century titans, and a day for pope francis to deliver messages - one of unity and the other of striving for betterment for all of the catholic faithful watching in the square, and for the church itself. [ singing ] >> reporter:. >> reporter:...
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women that received miracles from john xxiii and john paul ii. a french nun that recovered from parkinson's, the same thing john paul ii, and another that had a brain aneurysm, which inexplicably disappeared when she prayed to john paul ii. >> thank you so much. extraordinary event. we have lots of people there already. we will check back with you. we know millions are expected to descend and already thousands have. >>> gluttony is one of the so-called seven deadly sins, but one city in france sell bralts the overindulgence of food and wine. and who else other than anthony bourdain to take us there in this week's "parts unknown." >> i gained about 8 pounds in less than a week. if you plan to come to leon, bring your lipitor, get your reservation at betty ford squared away in advance, because you're going to be eating.
women that received miracles from john xxiii and john paul ii. a french nun that recovered from parkinson's, the same thing john paul ii, and another that had a brain aneurysm, which inexplicably disappeared when she prayed to john paul ii. >> thank you so much. extraordinary event. we have lots of people there already. we will check back with you. we know millions are expected to descend and already thousands have. >>> gluttony is one of the so-called seven deadly sins, but one...
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pope john paul ii will be elevated along with pope john i. everyone remembers pope john paul ii, but it didn't take him long to be elevated this way. >> there is some controversial surrounding that as well. john paul ii, the polish pope born in 1 1920. they say don't they com say comh the moment cometh the man? reagan era, margaret thatcher, they were all around together at the same time bringing down the iron curtain and pope john paul ii had a hand in that. you see pictures of him now. he was very handsome, wonderful broad smile, and people loved him very much. catholics loved him very much. he reigned 25 years and a lot of people in the catholic church welcomes his elevation to st. hood. they praise him now. >> let me ask you this question. there are people who disagree, and they say--john paul ii did not do enough about the sex abuse scandal during his papacy. >> it is a very fair point that a lot of people in the catholic church raise even today. and of course it is very swift for someone to become a hope if they have a selection of mira
pope john paul ii will be elevated along with pope john i. everyone remembers pope john paul ii, but it didn't take him long to be elevated this way. >> there is some controversial surrounding that as well. john paul ii, the polish pope born in 1 1920. they say don't they com say comh the moment cometh the man? reagan era, margaret thatcher, they were all around together at the same time bringing down the iron curtain and pope john paul ii had a hand in that. you see pictures of him now....
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there is a lot of ambiguity about john paul ii because john paul ii brings baggage into this. he was -- he was associated, for example, with father maciell, the notorious of the founder of the legion of christ, a pedophile. he had children of his own. he abused his own children. he abused the seminarians. john paul ii brings some baggage into this. but the symbolism of john xxiii then represents an opening of the church to the modern world. john xxiii brings an entirely different sense. it depends upon the pope. thanks to our guests tonight. complete coverage of the can onization ceremony tomorrow. still to come, a lot easier to carry a gun in public and george and the tales of a new law ahead. rebecca? the same reason we did not get any severe weather today is this reason that we are going to get severe weather tomorrow. i will show you where it's going to happen and the primary threat next. [ grunting ] i'm taking off, but, uh, don't worry. i'm gonna leave the tv on for you. and if anything happens, don't forget about the new xfinity my account app. you can troubleshoot tech
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american catholics and john paul ii. he came so often. he game seven times in total. they know him well. he's been to all the major cities, pretty much all of them, said mass all over the country. they report john xxiii with what he did to the second vatican council. they love john paul ii. we went to a church, cathedral of the sacred heart, because jpii went there with the president. after mass, the people we spoke to showed nothing but love. a woman says you better get to the church and open the family's account with the two new saints. >> i heard from my mum in haiti, and she said "you have to go", because i haven't been in church for a couple of weeks. she's like "please make it in for me." my mum in haiti, she was watching it as well. >> tell people who aren't catholic why the saints matter? >> you know, we go to the church and pray to the saints, ask for help, strength to guide and protect us, it's a lump of different stuff. people put it in a different way. i prayed to the lord. i pray to the virgin mary. i prayer
american catholics and john paul ii. he came so often. he game seven times in total. they know him well. he's been to all the major cities, pretty much all of them, said mass all over the country. they report john xxiii with what he did to the second vatican council. they love john paul ii. we went to a church, cathedral of the sacred heart, because jpii went there with the president. after mass, the people we spoke to showed nothing but love. a woman says you better get to the church and open...
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pope francis led the ceremony for john paul ii and john xxiii. in fact, john ter bennett has reaction from newark, new jersey but first with nick schifrin live in vatican city. nick, what is the emotion there like? what is the reaction where you are? >> reporter: morgan, i think the people i talked to -- it's not just thousands. it's nearly a million people who witnessed this ceremony is three-fold. one, they are awed by the sense of history. they are sense by the -- awed by the sense, as you said, two popes becoming two saints in 2000 years. the church has never seen anything like that. they are also here to say thank you to two very popular popes, john paul, often known as "the great" here really reached out to a new generation, a younger generation of catholics, spreading the church very, very wide. we saw some of the largest crowds ever assembled when he traveled, especially to places like the philippines and back to his home country of poland. also, john xxiii, "the good pope" as he is known, the second vatican council is his creation, a sen
pope francis led the ceremony for john paul ii and john xxiii. in fact, john ter bennett has reaction from newark, new jersey but first with nick schifrin live in vatican city. nick, what is the emotion there like? what is the reaction where you are? >> reporter: morgan, i think the people i talked to -- it's not just thousands. it's nearly a million people who witnessed this ceremony is three-fold. one, they are awed by the sense of history. they are sense by the -- awed by the sense, as...
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xxiii and john paul ii. it's described as catholic mardi gras on steroids. that's great. >> pope francis got right into the middle of the celebration. look here. this is the popemobile riding into the crowd, greeting the faithful who gather to witness the pope's canonization, and pope francis appears to really enjoy this, reaching out occasionally, touching people, holding hands, accepting things that they passed to him. >> he was criticized at one point for not wanting to be in anything that was covered. >> yes. >> for his own safety, he must, but he loves so much that touching and hugging and i'm here and i'm accessible to you kind of thing, and let's get more on what's happening there with vatican correspondent delia gallagher because she's live just outside of vatican city. >> what was the scene as the pope rode through the crowds, delia? >> reporter: what a thrill, victor and christi. the crowds here, you have to understand have been here since yesterday, sleeping in sleeping bags out under the stars on
xxiii and john paul ii. it's described as catholic mardi gras on steroids. that's great. >> pope francis got right into the middle of the celebration. look here. this is the popemobile riding into the crowd, greeting the faithful who gather to witness the pope's canonization, and pope francis appears to really enjoy this, reaching out occasionally, touching people, holding hands, accepting things that they passed to him. >> he was criticized at one point for not wanting to be in...
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paul ii and at the same time, he's clearly opened to ideas that john paul ii is not. he wants to see the church not caught up in these controversies over the role of women, over contraception, over gay rights. he wants to stress other aspects of the church and this would be a huge step, much more like john xxiii in some ways if he were to go forward as he seems to be. and also, remember, he has captured the attention and admiration of noncatholics in a way that both of these popes who were canonized today also did. >> all right. carl bernstein, always good to see you. >> nice to be here. >>> the nba is in the middle of the playoffs and the only thing anyone can talk about, can feel consumed about these days is the allegations of racist comments from a long-time team owner. we have reaction from legend nba, legend kareem abdul jabbar. it's a cnn exclusive right after this. ♪ here's a good one seattle... what did geico say to the mariner? we could save you a boatload! ♪ foghorn sounds loudly ♪ what's seattle's favorite noise? the puget sound! ♪ foghorn sounds lo
paul ii and at the same time, he's clearly opened to ideas that john paul ii is not. he wants to see the church not caught up in these controversies over the role of women, over contraception, over gay rights. he wants to stress other aspects of the church and this would be a huge step, much more like john xxiii in some ways if he were to go forward as he seems to be. and also, remember, he has captured the attention and admiration of noncatholics in a way that both of these popes who were...
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paul xxiii and pope john paul ii are declared as saints. we'll have this coverage all starting at 4:00 a.m. in the morning. so set alarm or siri or whatever you use right here on the fox newschannel. should be a remarkable historical and spiritual event. >> something worth watching for sure and taking a part of. well, with the weather trying to get warmer in certain places it might be a good idea to check your tires. consumer reports will join us with lot of useful tips to keep you safe on the roads. that's coming up next. >> plus, the obama administration encouraging nonviolent prisoners to apply for early release. what's behind the move. that's coming up as well. >> i'm pleased to announce a department of justice initiative to encourage qualified inmates to have their sentences commuted or reduced by the president of the united states. throwing in 0 fuel reward card is really what makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #2: actually, getting a great car with 42 highway miles per gallon makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #1: p
paul xxiii and pope john paul ii are declared as saints. we'll have this coverage all starting at 4:00 a.m. in the morning. so set alarm or siri or whatever you use right here on the fox newschannel. should be a remarkable historical and spiritual event. >> something worth watching for sure and taking a part of. well, with the weather trying to get warmer in certain places it might be a good idea to check your tires. consumer reports will join us with lot of useful tips to keep you safe...
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and john paul ii. >> you mentioned the strong memories of john paul ii on both sides of the aisle. john xxiii isn't quite as well-known. is he getting overshadowed by all this? >> reporter: i think he's getting a little overshadowed, but i think both popes are absolutely some of the more powerful and more to the point influential popes of the 20th century. there's a real sense in the media and perhaps here on the streets that, wait a minute. john paul was more of the conservative. john the xxiii was more of the progressive and liberal who pushed the church forward. i think a lot of people who talked to pope francis about why he's united the kanaanization of these two people is to send a message of unity. the message is no longer one was progressive and one was conservative. the message is john txxiii enacted a lot of changes scombron paul ii continued the and let's get beyond the traditional notion of the two popes and the two sides of this church. the church is big enough for everyone. let's unite and move forward, morgan, into the 21st century. >> thanks so much. al jazeera is li
and john paul ii. >> you mentioned the strong memories of john paul ii on both sides of the aisle. john xxiii isn't quite as well-known. is he getting overshadowed by all this? >> reporter: i think he's getting a little overshadowed, but i think both popes are absolutely some of the more powerful and more to the point influential popes of the 20th century. there's a real sense in the media and perhaps here on the streets that, wait a minute. john paul was more of the conservative....
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paul ii and john xxiii. and we go back for a moment with you together pope francis for reflections during the brief powerful homily. you are the scholar and expert in your greek and latin simple. from a layperson's perspective, one of the things that struck me was the use of that very be, to touch. he uses it three times at the beginning. he uses it as a reference to thomas but then also uses it in reference to john xxiii and pope john paul ii. there's not a fate to touch the wounds of christ, this very tactile approach that france has in the way we see him deal with the sick or disabled people, unafraid to touch those wounds. [ speaking foreign language ] >> amen. >> we'll come back to that in a moment, if you don't mind. at this point, the celebration, are awaiting the final voice. [ speaking foreign language ] >> this is pope francis praying the regina in a few moments, but before he expresses his gratitude before saying we convene this feast of thanks, he would like to thank all those present. he thanks
paul ii and john xxiii. and we go back for a moment with you together pope francis for reflections during the brief powerful homily. you are the scholar and expert in your greek and latin simple. from a layperson's perspective, one of the things that struck me was the use of that very be, to touch. he uses it three times at the beginning. he uses it as a reference to thomas but then also uses it in reference to john xxiii and pope john paul ii. there's not a fate to touch the wounds of christ,...
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he and retired pope benedict canonize pope john paul ii and john xxii. what an incredible day, lauren. >> you remember, it has been nine years since we said good-bye to pope john paul ii. you were there in rome. well, nine years later those shouts have been answered for him to become a saint. one of the things you talked about before in the intro is this is the day of four popes. mark it on the calendar that you witnessed this day because it will never happen again. two reigning popes celebrating mass together and lifting up two popes as saints. that has never happened before, that two popes have been saints at the same time. >> they deserve it because the two popes recognized today shaped the face in a way, but in a different way. they were very different in their methodology and theology. >> in many ways, pope francis is trying to build unity but continui continuity. he's taking john xxiii and took it global and out to the people. these are the bookends of vatican ii. people forget he was there, too, as a young theologian and very involved. he and john
he and retired pope benedict canonize pope john paul ii and john xxii. what an incredible day, lauren. >> you remember, it has been nine years since we said good-bye to pope john paul ii. you were there in rome. well, nine years later those shouts have been answered for him to become a saint. one of the things you talked about before in the intro is this is the day of four popes. mark it on the calendar that you witnessed this day because it will never happen again. two reigning popes...
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john paul ii was deeply concerned. it was that shared concern of u.s. interests and payal interests aligning that lays the ground for this lengthy papacy of john paul ii that extends the cold war and allows to essentially put aside other differences and work together for the undermining of communism. >> president carter wrote in his notes during a private meeting, in poland the church is stronger than the government. >> president meets the pope. there is a gift exchange. >> patrick kelly is the director of the john paul ii shrine. >> he is able to lay that groundwork and tell president carter about the situation in poland which he was intimately familiar with. and then president reagan comes to office and that relationship blossoms. john paul ii and president reagan shared convictions that communism could be overturned in central and eastern europe. >> central message of all time is not hatred, but love. >> the election of ronald reagan marked the beginning of one of the closest relationships between a pope and a president. >> these great issues, they w
john paul ii was deeply concerned. it was that shared concern of u.s. interests and payal interests aligning that lays the ground for this lengthy papacy of john paul ii that extends the cold war and allows to essentially put aside other differences and work together for the undermining of communism. >> president carter wrote in his notes during a private meeting, in poland the church is stronger than the government. >> president meets the pope. there is a gift exchange. >>...
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on sunday pope francis will declare pope john paul ii and john xxiii saints. . >> reporter: two popes elevated to saint hood, the holiest hop you are the catholic church -- honour the catholic church can bess stow. the faithful will bear witness. among their numbers is this woman, a woman whose recovery from a fatal brain aneurysm is considered one of two miracles. qualified for sanctity. >> i heard a voice. it said get up. don't be afraid. my eyes were fixed on a picture ahead of john ii. in the picture his hands from raised. i saw how his hand were meted out. i got up and said that was my response. it happened at home in costa rica as the late pope's bu butification was watched on television. her family were waiting for her to die. >> john paul ii was responsible for two miracles. john 23rd, and pope francis removed the requirement for a second, making the canonization event possible. >> to pilgrims both popes are men of holiness, the legacy of john paul ii calls into question. giovanni is a former catholic priest asked to give evidence to the vatican committee investigating the pos
on sunday pope francis will declare pope john paul ii and john xxiii saints. . >> reporter: two popes elevated to saint hood, the holiest hop you are the catholic church -- honour the catholic church can bess stow. the faithful will bear witness. among their numbers is this woman, a woman whose recovery from a fatal brain aneurysm is considered one of two miracles. qualified for sanctity. >> i heard a voice. it said get up. don't be afraid. my eyes were fixed on a picture ahead of...
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pope john paul ii and pope john xxiii, the newest saints? >> i think it's amazing because i never thought i would live in a time where i would actually be able to relate to pope john paul ii and actually see him can onized as a saint. so i think it's great that view is espoused by the majority of american catholics. many expressed love for john paul ii remembering his multiple visits to america in his 27 years as pope. so some say the elevation of john paul ii is too soon and they point to his role in the church section abuse scandal saying he did little to help the victims and protected ped file priests. >> those against john paul's elevation say they feel ignored and disrespected by rome. many, however, seem excited if not overjoyed by his saint pood. this woman's mom told her to get in the church? >> you have to go. you have to go because i haven't been in church in at least at that couple of weeks. she is like please make it in for me this morning. my mom in haiti, she was watching it as well. >> i prayed to the lord. i pray to the virgi
pope john paul ii and pope john xxiii, the newest saints? >> i think it's amazing because i never thought i would live in a time where i would actually be able to relate to pope john paul ii and actually see him can onized as a saint. so i think it's great that view is espoused by the majority of american catholics. many expressed love for john paul ii remembering his multiple visits to america in his 27 years as pope. so some say the elevation of john paul ii is too soon and they point...
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and for pope john paul ii they didn't want to wait the five years. so this was in order to avoid any controversy. >> and also debate, isn't there, or perhaps muted in the church about john paul ii's role during his papacy as emerged sexual scandal in the church and that he did not do enough. will that continue beyond his sanctity. >> well, first we need to differentiate, saints can make mistakes. we need more ground, that we should judge john paul ii what he did during the scandal. at the same time it's possible that the debate will go on, but not for the people who have gathered have already proclaimed john paul ii. >> we'll leave it there. we'll understand the finer points of this service three hours or so. it will be in total. the canon indicatioization willt a half hour. it won't be long until john paul ii and john xxiii are officially proclaimed saints. >> jonah, thank you very much. jonah hull will be keeping us in developments across vatican city during that historic ceremony, which is under way. >>> now to south korea where the prime minister
and for pope john paul ii they didn't want to wait the five years. so this was in order to avoid any controversy. >> and also debate, isn't there, or perhaps muted in the church about john paul ii's role during his papacy as emerged sexual scandal in the church and that he did not do enough. will that continue beyond his sanctity. >> well, first we need to differentiate, saints can make mistakes. we need more ground, that we should judge john paul ii what he did during the scandal....
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>> yeah it, began with john paul ii. began with the people in his funeral people were saying make him a saint right now. >> both were very popular. i don't have any trouble with pope john the 23rd by the way. i thought he was from my own humble perspective i thought he did an excellent job in bringing the catholic church to a lot of people. john paul obviously i have problems with it's not fair for me to judge another human being. >> judge the actions but not the heart. >> the actions of pope john paul ii were extraordinary in poland when he he threw off the communists and risked his life. however, they were not extraordinary in the priest abuse scandal that is the truth. he harbored cardinal law. cardinal law should be in jail. he was the guy in boston who allowed the priests to run wild who transferred pedophilias from parish to parish. pope john paul ii took him out of the united states and gave him a katyushay -- cushy job. >> it's not up to the pope to put somebody in jail that should be the local authorities. talk
>> yeah it, began with john paul ii. began with the people in his funeral people were saying make him a saint right now. >> both were very popular. i don't have any trouble with pope john the 23rd by the way. i thought he was from my own humble perspective i thought he did an excellent job in bringing the catholic church to a lot of people. john paul obviously i have problems with it's not fair for me to judge another human being. >> judge the actions but not the heart....
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pope john xxiii and pope john paul ii with twolying popes present. pope francis presiding and retired pope benedict observing. ♪ the atmosphere is festive at the vatican set the stage for the big event but security is tight. streets have been shut down to traffic and thousands of extra police are on hand. keeping crowds under control and checking for bombs. the canonization ceremonies are now only hours away. people are packing into st. peter's square and they are praying and singing and celebrating and they're trying to get as close as they can to the gates before they open sunday morning. a group from france found a prime spot inches from the gates where they hoped to spend the night. you got a very good spot here. >> yeah. we -- we tried to have the best one in there during the night. >> reporter: but it wasn't to be. others were defiant including a group of nuns that wouldn't budge. one made the journey in chicago. >> once in a lifetime opportunity. >> you thought you were going to be extremely close and now -- >> now who knows. >> reporter: he
pope john xxiii and pope john paul ii with twolying popes present. pope francis presiding and retired pope benedict observing. ♪ the atmosphere is festive at the vatican set the stage for the big event but security is tight. streets have been shut down to traffic and thousands of extra police are on hand. keeping crowds under control and checking for bombs. the canonization ceremonies are now only hours away. people are packing into st. peter's square and they are praying and singing and...
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paul ii. there may be disagreements about some church doctrinal issues, but he was a hero for m&m would agree with his sainthood. >> brown: john allen, how much has this criticism about the child abuse scandals been a factor here? >> clearly the criticism about john paul ii's record on the church's child sexual abuse scandals is undeniably part of the subtext of the event. the vatican has staged a series of briefings with some of the luminaires with some of the john ii era. we heard from his spokesperson from 22 years, from the cardinal of cr acow poland and the papal biographer, all of them were asked questions about the way john paul ii did or did not respond to the child sexual abuse scandal. so i think in terms of the way the media is covering this story and probably to some extent at the grassroots, it's a piece of the picture, but, on the other hand, it clearly isn't doing much to dampen the enthusiasm of the throngs of pilgrims filling rome even as we speak. although estimates vary, at
paul ii. there may be disagreements about some church doctrinal issues, but he was a hero for m&m would agree with his sainthood. >> brown: john allen, how much has this criticism about the child abuse scandals been a factor here? >> clearly the criticism about john paul ii's record on the church's child sexual abuse scandals is undeniably part of the subtext of the event. the vatican has staged a series of briefings with some of the luminaires with some of the john ii era. we...
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and is so many people, particularly john paul ii. a double papal is history making but elevating two popes to sainthood as only two have officially been recognized as the holiest of holy in the past years is significant. so that's why there are a lot of people very eager to get into position for tomorrow's ceremony on saint peter's square. john paul ii, who lived through enormous personal tragedy, having lost his mother and only brother by the time he was 12, and then living under nazi occupation first, communism later. he was a hero to so many people as he traveled the world to make himself accessible to various communities, and for how he kept working with grace throughout the debilitating illness that he had until his death. john 23rd was a bit of an original pope francis, if you can say that. sneaking in and out of the vatican to visit hospitals and prisons. he was jovial, joking, a good sense of humor. people often called him the good pope. and kelly, as you probably know, what he is most famous for is convening vaticans back in
and is so many people, particularly john paul ii. a double papal is history making but elevating two popes to sainthood as only two have officially been recognized as the holiest of holy in the past years is significant. so that's why there are a lot of people very eager to get into position for tomorrow's ceremony on saint peter's square. john paul ii, who lived through enormous personal tragedy, having lost his mother and only brother by the time he was 12, and then living under nazi...
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john paul ii and pope john xxiii were declared saints during a two-hour ceremony. john hall reports from vatican city >> reporter: some had waited all night. many had traveled great distances. and this was the moment the pilgrims had come to witness. [speaking latin" >> translator: we declare blessed john xxiii and john paul ii declared to be saints. to be. >> the two late popes were among the most important and modernizing church leaders of the 20th century. their dual canonization a historic first for the catholic church and in the presence of two living popes as well. >> so it's been a day of four popes really. three miracle said to have proven sanctify, two saints and one catholic church. >> it's widely thought that the act of double canonization will draw the church closer together. >> here, we have two popes that are part of the same history, john xxiii, convened the second vatican counsel and john paul ii continued the work. >> that's why the church is joined together by these two popes. this is why the catholics can feel united >> pope francis did not begin
john paul ii and pope john xxiii were declared saints during a two-hour ceremony. john hall reports from vatican city >> reporter: some had waited all night. many had traveled great distances. and this was the moment the pilgrims had come to witness. [speaking latin" >> translator: we declare blessed john xxiii and john paul ii declared to be saints. to be. >> the two late popes were among the most important and modernizing church leaders of the 20th century. their dual...
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of john paul ii, his hand were raised. it indicated for me to get up. i got up saying "yes, sir", that was my response. >> it happened in costa rica as she watched the late pope's beautification. her family were waiting for her to die. >> reporter: john paul ii was responsible for two miracles john xxii just one. to pilgrims, both lay popes are men of great holliness. the legacy of the john paul ii causes some to question. giovanni is a former catholic priest asked to give evidence to the priest investigating the possibility of john paul ii's connonisation. they did not ask him back. >> translation: in the past i expressed my view that the process has been accelerated in a significant way and consequently they have not vetted the characters. >> survivors of sexual abuse agree, the polish pope they say should have done more to stop it. >> i think it's disappointing that the catholic church officials are making pope john paul ii a saint because he was involved in covering up sex crimes. we don't believe that is saintly behav
of john paul ii, his hand were raised. it indicated for me to get up. i got up saying "yes, sir", that was my response. >> it happened in costa rica as she watched the late pope's beautification. her family were waiting for her to die. >> reporter: john paul ii was responsible for two miracles john xxii just one. to pilgrims, both lay popes are men of great holliness. the legacy of the john paul ii causes some to question. giovanni is a former catholic priest asked to give...
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john xxiii. john paul ii seen by many as a conservative. people talking about his family values, as we would call them back home. a sense against apportion, against gays. trying to be a conservative member of the church. pope francis says wait, let not think about that, let's think about what john xxiii did. john paul ii continued john xxiii's message, saying that the two of them cooperated with the holy spirit in renewing and updating the church. that is pope francis's message. a sense of unity, both sides of the church coming together moving it to the 21st century. >> thank you nick schifrin live from vatican city. we'll look at the connonisation and what it means, later in the hour. >>> leaders in the u.s. and malaysia meat as president obama conditions a week-long tour of asia. the first visit by an american president since l.b.j. visited. president obama discussed the missing malaysian airliner, among other issues including human rights. we go live to kuala lumpur. good morning to you. why has it been so long since a u.s. president has
john xxiii. john paul ii seen by many as a conservative. people talking about his family values, as we would call them back home. a sense against apportion, against gays. trying to be a conservative member of the church. pope francis says wait, let not think about that, let's think about what john xxiii did. john paul ii continued john xxiii's message, saying that the two of them cooperated with the holy spirit in renewing and updating the church. that is pope francis's message. a sense of...
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pope john paul ii, and pope john paul will be canonized at the vatican sunday. pope john paul xxiiird led the church from 1958 to 1963 and credited with modernized the church, and pope john paul ii made him the most visible pope in history traveling the world, and credited to bring down communism. the road to sainthood arose almost immediately after his death. and questions are being raised whether it happened too soon and whether he deserves the honor. greg burke addressed some of the criticism this morning on "today" show. >> pope benedict, really, we thought he was one of the most conservative popes in the world, until he resigned of course, but a prudent man, and somebody who knew pope john paul ii and worked with him for the better part of 25 years,nd he is the one who signed off on the five-year wait before the process starts, and pope benedict did that, and that is one thing that said that it was going forward and also the 1 million people who came for his funeral mass. >> and now joining us is the pastor of our lady of mercy church out of baton rouge, lo
pope john paul ii, and pope john paul will be canonized at the vatican sunday. pope john paul xxiiird led the church from 1958 to 1963 and credited with modernized the church, and pope john paul ii made him the most visible pope in history traveling the world, and credited to bring down communism. the road to sainthood arose almost immediately after his death. and questions are being raised whether it happened too soon and whether he deserves the honor. greg burke addressed some of the...
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pope john paul ii had suffered from the same degenerative disease. they declared it an official miracle in 2011. the second miracle was reported by a costa rican woman who says she was partially paralyzed because of a brain injury. she was told she had just days to live. she prayed to john paul ii from a small shrine dedicated to him. >> translator: that's when i heard the voice in my bedroom say, get up. it surprised me and i looked around the roornlgs my god, i'm alone. i heard something say, get up. it repeated to me, get up. do not be afraid. >> reporter: doctors found no trace of an aneurysm in her brain and had no explanation for her recovery. from that day to today i'm standing because pope john paul ii that day took away my fears, the agony and gave me a peace. the peace that gave me the certainty i was healthy. >> reporter: pope xxii's canonization, his one healing was an italian nun. a she was not expected to live after the removal of a tumor in her stomach but she made an instant recovery after other nuns placed a statue of pope john on he
pope john paul ii had suffered from the same degenerative disease. they declared it an official miracle in 2011. the second miracle was reported by a costa rican woman who says she was partially paralyzed because of a brain injury. she was told she had just days to live. she prayed to john paul ii from a small shrine dedicated to him. >> translator: that's when i heard the voice in my bedroom say, get up. it surprised me and i looked around the roornlgs my god, i'm alone. i heard...
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paul ii and john paul xxiii. two pillars of the modern church. >> we have two new saints who exercised a ministry of holiness that was truly universal. >> john paul ii was the world changing, historical figure. more people are unfamiliar with john xxiii, who was an important pope who called the second vatican council that put in all the changes we know today. >> when he was elected pope in 1958, many thought john xxiii, the good pope, would have a caretaker papacy. but he called for the council, meeting of the world's bishops that would shake things up. >> took the cardinals by surprise to say the very least. sat that open mouthed when they heard pope john newly crowned pope, state this in january of 1959. and there was an immediate reaction like, what the heck is this all about. >> at that council was a young polish bishop who would later become pope john paul ii, woho would continue the legacy of the council. >> so, you have john xxiii calling the council and john paul ii, the one who effectively moved it forwa
paul ii and john paul xxiii. two pillars of the modern church. >> we have two new saints who exercised a ministry of holiness that was truly universal. >> john paul ii was the world changing, historical figure. more people are unfamiliar with john xxiii, who was an important pope who called the second vatican council that put in all the changes we know today. >> when he was elected pope in 1958, many thought john xxiii, the good pope, would have a caretaker papacy. but he...
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xxiii and john paul ii to be saints. and we enroll in the -- them as saints. in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit. >> john xxiii represents efforts to adapt the catholic church to modern times. 1958. elected pope in he wanted a more open search that engages with the issues of the modern era. he convened a three-year long conference of catholic theologians known as the second vatican council to decide on church reforms. john paul ii took his oath of papal office in 1978,. . and established a reputation as the traveling pope. eventually visiting 129 countries. born in poland, he was very active politically. he condemned unrestrained capitalism and communism and promoted reconciliation between east and west. but he took a hard line against critical theologians. he rejected both contraception and homosexuality and amanda priests adhere to the traditional values and dogmas. by canonizing these two very different leaders of the roman catholic church, pope francis seems to be saying that despite all their dif
xxiii and john paul ii to be saints. and we enroll in the -- them as saints. in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit. >> john xxiii represents efforts to adapt the catholic church to modern times. 1958. elected pope in he wanted a more open search that engages with the issues of the modern era. he convened a three-year long conference of catholic theologians known as the second vatican council to decide on church reforms. john paul ii took his oath of papal office in...
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pope john paul ii, did that pass? >> right after he died there was this incredible outpouring of support for him. the crowds in st. peter's square chanting "santo subato," which means make him a saint immediately. when pope benedict was elected he decided to waive the five-year waiting period that usually is required after a death before you even start looking at whether or not someone should be on track to become a saint. >> so one pope got an exception for the two miracles down to one, one pope got be a interception for the waiting time. we're hearing world leaders, presidents, but this is somewhat different than standard, it's not a huge three-day affair like it becomes? >> that's right. this is the no frills papacy. he's making ate no frills day onization. so it's just going to be the basic ceremony itself in st. peter's square. it's still enormously festive and something that people around the world could be watching but it won't be the three-day extravaganza. >> rachel, associated press, thanks so much for joini
pope john paul ii, did that pass? >> right after he died there was this incredible outpouring of support for him. the crowds in st. peter's square chanting "santo subato," which means make him a saint immediately. when pope benedict was elected he decided to waive the five-year waiting period that usually is required after a death before you even start looking at whether or not someone should be on track to become a saint. >> so one pope got an exception for the two...
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they are there for the canonization of pope john paul ii and john xxiii. the more than a million visitors are in rome. many have made their way to the vatican. nick schifrin joins us live from rome. nick, what's the vibe there like right now? it seems pretty festive. >> morgan, you are absolutely right. it is very festive. the people behind me are here to celebrate. you go through this square. you ask many of them. they are all here, mostly for one man, john paul ii. he died only nine years ago. i use that term "only" because nine years for the church is like the blink of an eye. but the church says that, yes, he satisfied all of the requirements for becoming a saint. and those include having a life and writings of heroic virtue being a role model and performing two miracles. >>> flora doesn't only believe he is a saint. she helped make him one in her coast a rickan sideline, she creates a shrine to the imagine she says saved her life. in 2001, her doctors said she had an aneurysm and would live a month. she cluchld a magazine with john paul on the cover.
they are there for the canonization of pope john paul ii and john xxiii. the more than a million visitors are in rome. many have made their way to the vatican. nick schifrin joins us live from rome. nick, what's the vibe there like right now? it seems pretty festive. >> morgan, you are absolutely right. it is very festive. the people behind me are here to celebrate. you go through this square. you ask many of them. they are all here, mostly for one man, john paul ii. he died only nine...
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and he felt very personally attached to pope john paul ii. he was really the number two guy for a long time under pope john paul ii. and they were very close, theologically and personally as friends. >> and greg, one of the very unique things for the ceremony is the fact we will have two popes in attendance, pope benedict and, of course, current pope francis. what is -- that dynamic is so unusual. >> very. >> what is the relationship like between the two of them? how are they sort of navigating these very uncharted waters? >> i really give them credit for doing a very good job in navigating this. it really hasn't -- it's been more than -- it's been almost 600 years since there have been more than one living pope or former pope. so it's quite remarkable. >> so can you tell us a little bit about the legacy about john xxiii and the vatican counscil? is the way the church has changed as a result of his leadership? >> in a word, yes. he was such a surprise. his election was a surprise. the fact that the results of the council were a surprise. he d
and he felt very personally attached to pope john paul ii. he was really the number two guy for a long time under pope john paul ii. and they were very close, theologically and personally as friends. >> and greg, one of the very unique things for the ceremony is the fact we will have two popes in attendance, pope benedict and, of course, current pope francis. what is -- that dynamic is so unusual. >> very. >> what is the relationship like between the two of them? how are they...
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thank you r. >>> we talked about john paul ii and john paul xxiii. he is credited with mon earnizing the catholic church. his work and influence opened doors. john ter bennett has more on the man still known as "the good pope." >> his was a new style of pontificate, pope john xxiii ran the vatican time enough to show he was different than hez predecessor? >> they were much more similar to kings or monarchs or emperors. >> that's the major difference that made him known as "the good pope." > the good pope was the third of 13 children raised in the italian countryside in lombardi. his education was tradition a.m. italian but before becoming pope, he traveled as a vatican diplomat reaching out to non-catholics, jews and christians. and that changed him? >> a great moment of change in the life of the catholic church. >> it was john xxiii who decided the church needed a new ecumenical counsel. it shocked everybody. many thought global debate about the churchts future was unnecessary >> the ecumenical council became known as the second vatican council or v
thank you r. >>> we talked about john paul ii and john paul xxiii. he is credited with mon earnizing the catholic church. his work and influence opened doors. john ter bennett has more on the man still known as "the good pope." >> his was a new style of pontificate, pope john xxiii ran the vatican time enough to show he was different than hez predecessor? >> they were much more similar to kings or monarchs or emperors. >> that's the major difference that...
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paul ii and john xxiiii. the canonization ceremony being led by the current prop-francis with benedict xvi. not since the middle agers have two become popes together. more on how this day came about start with a costa rican's woman's improbably connection >> florabeth doesn't only believe john paul is a saint. she helped make him one. she investigated a shrine to the man she says saved her life. in 2001, her doctors said she had an aneurysm and would live for only a month. she clutched a favorite magazine with john paul on the cover. six years after he died, on the same de jongh paul took the first step to sainthood, laura beth says he appeared today her in a vision. >> it filled me with peace and gave me the self confidence i could recover from my sickness. >> after that moment, she says she recovered instantly. her doctors called it a miracle. the catholic church does, too. >> he saved your life? >> of course. god saved my life with john paul ii's intervention. >> over 27 years, john paul's intervention tra
paul ii and john xxiiii. the canonization ceremony being led by the current prop-francis with benedict xvi. not since the middle agers have two become popes together. more on how this day came about start with a costa rican's woman's improbably connection >> florabeth doesn't only believe john paul is a saint. she helped make him one. she investigated a shrine to the man she says saved her life. in 2001, her doctors said she had an aneurysm and would live for only a month. she clutched a...
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the xxiii and john paul ii become saints. with a large contention from john paul's native poland. >> the state of john paul ii still lives in the nation. >> reporter: but with the joy, there is anguish from people like barbara blaine who was sexually abused by a priest. >> pope john paul ii had the opportunity and authority to stop the sexual violence, and he refused to do so. >> reporter: john paul believed in the power of saints. he created 482 of them, more than all his predecessors combined, by streamlining the process and eliminating the critical voice known as the devil's advocate. >> one of the things the devil's advocate would have focused on that, the clergy sex abuse crisis. >> reporter: washington's cardinal donald whirl has no doubt john paul is worthy. >> it's a decoloration, that the person is a holey person. and i think that's what it is about. >> reporter: the city is ready for the multitudes. >> what i can look for better than an event that will advertise the city and its beauty, about 2 billion people. >> re
the xxiii and john paul ii become saints. with a large contention from john paul's native poland. >> the state of john paul ii still lives in the nation. >> reporter: but with the joy, there is anguish from people like barbara blaine who was sexually abused by a priest. >> pope john paul ii had the opportunity and authority to stop the sexual violence, and he refused to do so. >> reporter: john paul believed in the power of saints. he created 482 of them, more than all...
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john xxiii's modernized the church, second vatican council and john paul ii fought against communism but more importantly was an honorary harlem globetrotter. (applause) >> and i believe-- i believe-- i believe that they're undefeated record is the real miracle. (laughter) >> and folks, when you are be there, it is hard to explain, but it felt as if these departed popes were in st. peter's square with you because parts of them were. >> pope francis relic from each of the pontiffs. >> the re8ic of john xxiii is a piece of his skin. and the relic of john paul ii is his blood in a vial. >> stephen: skin and blood, why would the vatican want-- they're building a franken-pope! (applause) (laughter) folks t was a monumental day that brought all catholics together. luckily the news media was there to help drive use part. >> we have two men who are often seen as sort of para gorntion one john xxiii as sort of the liberal wing of the catholic chfern and the other one pope john paul ii seen as sort of the conservative. >> two very different popes. one liberal and one conservative. >> one viewe
john xxiii's modernized the church, second vatican council and john paul ii fought against communism but more importantly was an honorary harlem globetrotter. (applause) >> and i believe-- i believe-- i believe that they're undefeated record is the real miracle. (laughter) >> and folks, when you are be there, it is hard to explain, but it felt as if these departed popes were in st. peter's square with you because parts of them were. >> pope francis relic from each of the...
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john paul ii and john xxiii. they have been formally approved. let's go to nick schifrin, joining us live from roam outside of vatican city. the canonization is sparking debate in the catholic community, what is that about? . >> reporter: i think the debate is about whether, as you said, why the two popes are good evening canonized. a lot of allies of john paul saying he shouldn't have to share the day and john the xxiii's allies saying he shouldn't share the day with a lot of people that disagreed with him. you ask a lot of people in the square, filling up with programs, all the focus of people i have been speaking to is on john paul ii. he died nine years ago. for the catholic church it's like the blink of an eye. it's the fastest canonization. it satisfied all the requirements and lived his heroic virtue. the he's a role model and performed two miracles. >> flora both doesn't only believe john paul is a saint. she makes him one. this woman has made a shrine to a man said saved her house. she had an aneurysm. she clutched a magazine, with john
john paul ii and john xxiii. they have been formally approved. let's go to nick schifrin, joining us live from roam outside of vatican city. the canonization is sparking debate in the catholic community, what is that about? . >> reporter: i think the debate is about whether, as you said, why the two popes are good evening canonized. a lot of allies of john paul saying he shouldn't have to share the day and john the xxiii's allies saying he shouldn't share the day with a lot of people that...
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paul xxii and pope john paul ii were declared popes. amy kellogg reports from rome. >> reporter: chris, the streets of rome are alive with nearly a million pilgrims full of joy and reference as two new saints are ushered in. in an unprecedented move, pope francis decided to canonize two popes in one ceremony today. even pope benedict xvi hardly seen in public since his decision to retire celebrated in the mass. john xxiii was known for convening the second vatican counsel that modernized the church by changing the translation fr translation. many believe the pope decided to sanctity them simultaneously for showing their similarities between the church. pope john paul ii brought people to the church with his tireless globe trotting. >> it is fun to be a part of the canonization. >> i kind of knew these people. and one of them i touched and helped carry in the final years of his life. >> reporter: most saints had two miracles attributed to them, like the mysterious disappearance of the parkinson's disease in this nun who prayed to john pa
paul xxii and pope john paul ii were declared popes. amy kellogg reports from rome. >> reporter: chris, the streets of rome are alive with nearly a million pilgrims full of joy and reference as two new saints are ushered in. in an unprecedented move, pope francis decided to canonize two popes in one ceremony today. even pope benedict xvi hardly seen in public since his decision to retire celebrated in the mass. john xxiii was known for convening the second vatican counsel that modernized...
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in less than two hours, the ceremony will begin to declare pope john paul 23 and pope john paul ii as saints. huge crowds are there. they want to be there for the mass with pope francis officiating. >> reporter: millions of pilgrims have gathered in rome to watch pope francis cannonnize the two popes. the excitement is building as the vestive atmosphere takes hold. security is high. more than 3,000 extra police officers are on due patrolling the crowds and looking for bombs. streets near the vatican are closed to traffic. many visitors are camping here overnight hoping to be among the first to enter saint peters square when it opens to the public hours before the ceremonies begin. >> we have ponchos and we also have umbrellas and we bought some food so we can stay here. we have blankets. >> others spent a night of prayer at a church near the vatican. david casano of brooklyn will be there for the ceremoniment he was a child when pope john 23 led the church. he met pope john paul ii in second. >> i have to tell you, it was a nice powerful part of my life. >> he is looking forward to jo
in less than two hours, the ceremony will begin to declare pope john paul 23 and pope john paul ii as saints. huge crowds are there. they want to be there for the mass with pope francis officiating. >> reporter: millions of pilgrims have gathered in rome to watch pope francis cannonnize the two popes. the excitement is building as the vestive atmosphere takes hold. security is high. more than 3,000 extra police officers are on due patrolling the crowds and looking for bombs. streets near...